David's post made profound sense to me, and good on him for being the dissenter. It's all too easy to join the clan of 'yes' men. Many academics seems to be endowed with the ability to confuse rather than clarify any given issue and the semantic realm seems to be their favourite. It would be far more productive to move on from debating what is knowledge/what is learning and get on and do some of it. Has there been no common ground established after all these years and years and years....... I'm weary of it, and I'll continue learning while the debate still continues about how I'm doing it ! It's all a matter of perspective.